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Tuesday, February 07, 2006

Socialism, Capitalism & Free Market Theory

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I remember couple of months back I had said to ‘Soyyo’ about writing about my views on Socialism & Capitalism. And now when me and ‘Sher’ are discussing this topic, I finally got to write this one.

I find it quite difficult to explicitly term myself as endorsing socialism or capitalism. There are reasons for it. Having been brought up in a socialist country I have imbibed socialistic ideas and my education has inculcated capitalism. As a result, I am neither a perfect socialist nor a capitalist.

The heart of socialism is equal distribution of wealth and if it proceeds to communism then it becomes “means of production to be controlled by all of a society”. Marxism proposes a series of changes which ulitmately will lead to this. But Socialism for me is only ‘equality’. I see socialism as “to be given equal opportunities to acquire skills”.

The heart of capitalism is “means of production are owned by individual or privately owned”. But capitalism for me is the one which breeds entrepreneurs. If a person hasthe skill and opportunity then he(she) be allowed to reap the benefits of his(her) hard work.

I am completely at peace because ‘my’ idea of socialism and capitalism are not in conflict with each other. Socialism gives everyone equal opporutnity to acquire skills and then capitalism allows them to exploit their skills. One should not be limited to derive less benefits of his(her) skills cause others are not doing so. The fault lies with the one who has less skills cause there was equal opportunity to gain skill.

It is in here that I place the concept of “free market”or laws of demand and supply. The only way I think skills could be valued properly is to let the market decide and not what some cartels or governments think of it. If you have been given equal opportunities then there should be no need of regulation. Take for example – you are given equal opportunity of taking coal and gold. You want to take coal and then want some regulations to price coal more to gold. Isn’t this trying to cover your wrong decisions ? Would it be fair to make others who chose gold to pay for your wrong decision ? If you think that those who chose gold did it by fluke, then this is not true. They would have invested in market intelligence and getting the pay off for it.

It is only free market that can deal with inefficiencies. Those who do treasury operations know that arbitrage gains are possible only due to inefficiency of two markets. It is much like there are two different water levels and the only way to make them come to the same level is to have a free flow.

I agree that a welfare state has certain social obligations. There can be two ways to handle deficiency. Either make everyone deficient so that it ceases to be a deficiency or work to overcome deficiency. Unfortunately most of the time governments tend to go by former. Putting controls and regulations are way to do this. This is the reason ‘free market’ theory is not popular with ‘psuedo welfare’ governments.

To summarise, I consider the socio-capitalism in a ‘free market’economy to be the best choice.

19 Comments:

  • At 6:06 AM, Blogger XVSA013 said…

    you are Nehru would have got along well.

     
  • At 6:44 AM, Blogger Y said…

    Ha Ha, Mowgli is at it again.

    But I think free market is one extreme. Its a short term cure but a longer term bigger problem than communism.

    I tend to look at it as a feedback mechanism. To me free markets much like a nuclear fission is a positive feedback mechanism.

    What has happened to GM, Ford and the auto industry in US in general. They just cant cope up with healthcare costs. The US is privatising social security. Its because free markets tend to pull us away , after some time I must add, to the very qualities we cherish.

    There is a whole spectrum of thoughts, I have inside, which I want to tell, but words are the obstruction in front of me. So as always I think my message is garbled.

     
  • At 7:11 AM, Blogger Y said…

    Satya, I thought you wud like to read the following article.

    http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/02/03/yourmoney/mittal.php

     
  • At 7:35 AM, Blogger greensatya said…

    Mowgli - Care to elaborate ? I can't make head or tails of your statement.

    Sher - Yeah, Free market and Communism are on opposite ends of extreme. Free market I guess goes much beyond national boundaries. India was long been a socialist country and we have no Social Security. France has more problems due to this just cause of rigid labour laws. GM & Ford are facing problem due to rigid labour unions and not cause of free market.

    Hey thanks for the link. It was a good read.

     
  • At 7:36 AM, Blogger Raj said…

    A lot of free market related drama happened two months ago in indian blogosphere. I wonder why u didnt participate in it. I'm sure u wud have loved to :)

     
  • At 7:39 AM, Blogger greensatya said…

    Raj- Is it? I have Indian audience since past few months. I have seen few debates in certain sections of Indian blogosphere but I find them clique based. I wonder how much of free debate is possible in them.

     
  • At 12:34 PM, Blogger Raj said…

    You're probably right abt the clique thing but still you can check it out.

     
  • At 2:20 PM, Blogger XVSA013 said…

    what the hell? nowadays anything i write seems to confuse you!! and sher also ... umm ... anyways what i meant was India under Nehru, neither opted for full socialism nor full capitalism ... instead Nehru took the middle road of 'mixed economy' which is what you seem to be suggesting ...

    To be fair to Nehru, Gorbachev in his auto-bio (without refering to Nehru) says USSR shd go the mixed model ... and China too has invented its own brand of mixed model ... but mixed model failed in India !! blame the LQI raj :-)

    and abt communism ... inspite of lofty ideals of equality, what has really happened is, instead of making everyone of equal height, by making shorter ppl grow, communists cut the legs of tall people to make them 'equal' ...

     
  • At 2:27 PM, Blogger greensatya said…

    Thanks Raj. The link is not coming up, might be they have removed the page.

     
  • At 2:36 PM, Blogger greensatya said…

    Mowgli - Well in this particular instance, I had totally understood you. But I feel highly offended to be linked to Nehru in any way. Don't you know my views for this person? I bet you know and just to mock at me you wrote the line.

    Nehru and mixed economy, hah, Nehru and economy, hah , for that matter Nehru and Governing capability?? Talk of growing pumpkins in India's nuclear rector would have made more sense.

    Well the only thing that I borrow from socialism is "EQUALITY" nothing else. And do you mean by PSUs and by policies which allowed even sugar plant to be set up only by government was mixed economy ? no it was total socialist economy.

    I never would merit the socialism of Nehru which proved to be bane for India.

    I never said that I endorse even a speck of communism and infact if you see mine this line

    //There can be two ways to handle deficiency. Either make everyone deficient so that it ceases to be a deficiency or work to overcome deficiency//

    This is what I guess you are trying to say as well.

     
  • At 2:57 PM, Blogger XVSA013 said…

    but i still think you and Nehru would hav got on very well ....

    hahahahhahahahahahahha

     
  • At 3:37 PM, Blogger Raj said…

    Direct links:


    One
    and Two.

     
  • At 6:06 PM, Blogger greensatya said…

    Thanks Raj,I read the posts, they are interesting.

     
  • At 6:51 PM, Blogger greensatya said…

    Mowgliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii !@#$%$%

     
  • At 9:15 AM, Blogger Maverick said…

    Socialism is often taken as not providing equal oppertunities but providing equal returns. Free oppertunities are often marred in a socoialist community.

    I beliebve in the theory of "survival of the fittest" and that some how shares its generics better with capitalism.

    In capitalism the objective is to look for oppertunities and drive them to gain more wealth. Wealth being the signifcant metric here. The more effecient the drive the better the result. There by efficiency is the key to succeed in a capitalist state. To gain these effeciencies you need to innovate. But ofcourse you cannot enjoy the benefits of being capitalists without being a free market. Fair competition and elimination needs to innovation.

     
  • At 10:56 AM, Blogger greensatya said…

    Hi Maverick,

    You have put it in the perfect way. Excellent compilation.

    There is no incentive in a socialist economy to do better. As a result such kind of economy becomes stagnant.

    The only fault which may arise with capitalism is establishment of cartels which don't allow others to setup business, but this could be checked by having a free market.

    Thanks for the comment.

     
  • At 2:24 PM, Blogger Y said…

    " survival of the fittest- shares its generics with capitalism"

    nothing can be further from the truth::ok, somethings can be still further.

    Capitalism - is survival of whoever has it.


    Free market is an idyllic concept. No market can ever be proclaimed one. Even in an idyllic world the players will be human and therefore free market as a norm will be governed by human irrrationalities. Therefore the capital allocation to the best things that it says it does is wishful thinking. Eg Bubble 2000, current property boom in US.

    capitalism with free markets take us through a pleasent ride which lasts much longer than rides offered by other ideologies and it is more pleasent too while it rides(bcoz it caters to our matterialistic self) but when it ends; it ends in a most draconian fashion.

     
  • At 9:43 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Thanks for posting this, Satya. Sorry I didn't see it until today...

    Anyway, it's a good post and I enjoy reading varied opinions on this topic.

    Soyyo

     
  • At 9:48 PM, Blogger greensatya said…

    Hi Soyyo,

    No problem as long as you read it :) Well I know you have opinion on this issue, so may be you can someday write it. Does Myspace have this journal facility as well ?

     

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